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Aftermarket.com Auction Final List!

September 20th, 2008 by Susan Prosser

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No Names Over $100,000

DomainConsultant Explains its Auction Selections

There is little question in our mind that if you are looking for super premiums over $100,000, you are well covered by the other auctions. They always do it well, kudos to them.

If you are looking for domains with multiple venues of value in lower price ranges, we hope you’ll take a few moments to review and, hopefully, understand our selection process and purchase recommendations.

All about ‘Value’

Very early on in the process we decided against ‘window dressing’ – knowing full well our list would be viewed as being sub-par upon first glance. But as we publicly stated before, we concluded that, as consultants, our job is to pinpoint “value” for our clients.

Potential ‘value’ is defined and categorized as Short-Term (traffic/revenue), Long-Term (end-user sale/development), SEO value (growing importance), Price value (below/at market), Perceived value (first impression/credibility), Generic value, Industry value (size, scope and scale of applicable industries).

The following fifty or so domains were chosen because we identified a minimum of THREE of these specified values in our research and selection procedures.

For instance, a domain like ‘Dabbler.comDabbler.com’ has price, long-term, perceived and generic value. It could be a game or movie or book, software program or design company. A fun single word name like this, at this price, has a profitable end-user sale in its future – the buyer pool is potentially anyone.

A name like ‘OfficeComplex.comOfficeComplex.com’ has long-term value, generic, industry, SEO and price value. We would also deem this name a ‘generic-Geo‘ meaning that ads are LOCAL, exponentially increasing the number of potential advertisers regionally.

For instance, search for ’seafood restaurants’ and the results will likely be tailored to your geography. Same is true of officecomplex.comofficecomplex.com and banquethall.combanquethall.com, businessgrant.combusinessgrant.com or even porch.netporch.net.

Pricing

Obviously pricing played a big factor in determining selections – in our case, it was based on the concept that we insure each offering retain ‘resale value’ in some form. Far too often, live auction domains are priced for the ‘end-user’ – giving the domainer little long term value out of their purchases. And ‘resale value’ is the closest thing to ’security’ domains can offer.

To that end, these domains were chosen because they retain the VITAL and undefined value of that knock or phone call we all wait for – from the end-user with deep pockets.

A Note on Our Notes

We added notes not to attempt to convince you to buy – we’ll leave that to the salesmen in the industry. No, these are reasons, internal reasons, for why we believe they deserve to be on the list which is based, in large part, on the ‘collective wisdom’ of many people who were subjected to a series of votes and negotiation until consensus was reached.

Truth is we’d bid on all of these given the money, time and opportunity. You can disagree with us and that’s fair but this is how we make our decisions, how we make our money. And surely we understand no auction could ever satisfy all but we hope you find real value somewhere on the list, as we did, and join us Live on Wednesday at 5pm EST to bid and buy and enjoy the extravaganza. Cheers.

The following ‘notes’ were culled and combined from multiple DomainConsultant analyst comments.

DOMAIN(s)

PRICE

COMMENTS

Husband.com / Wife.com

$200,000

Great pair for wedding, jewelry or other. Resale value as they can sold or developed separately with potential in multiple billion-dollar industries.

Palermo.com

$75,000

Southern Italy (Sicily) seaside historic town, 700,000 population, 275+ advertisers, 246,000 searches, $1.80 bid. Top notch travel geo at an unseen price.

Off.com

$70,000

Unusual three letter word with thousands of potential uses – not many 3 letter words left to acquire and this sale makes it all the more rare.

Association.com

$50,000

Premium brandable with top-tier directory potential as well. Great price.

TrademarkAttorneys.com /
TrademarkLawyers.com

$50,000

Competitive terms, high margin business. Capture a high end niche – - Google #’s say low monthly search volume but high bid prices and tons of advertisers.

Openings.com

$50,000

Generic one worder applicable/brandable in the huge and profitable jobs market. Also real estate (home openings) or entertainment or movies/shows. Competitive price that allows for lots of growth for the savvy domainer.

MortgageCenter.com

$40,000

Solid brandable for mortgage business plus ‘brand’ gets 110,000 monthly searches with $8.00 bid prices. Owner says it gets traffic and is great for lead generation programs.

Eat.net

$39,500

Another, rare three letter word that applies to cooking, restaurants, adult, business. Nice dev potential.

BanquetHall.com

$33,000

Big ‘generic-geo’ – meaning ads are local, BIG pool of advertisers for a competitive market

Illinois.org

$25,000

State .orgs have traffic plus development, SEO and resale value. Home of future President?

TravelDirectory.com

$20,000

Easy development, lots of revenue streams – ‘travel’ and ‘directory’ go together like ‘free’ and ‘porn.’

NewYorkLoft.com / NewYorkApartment.com

$20,000

Great package deal for real estate geo-names, NY no less – lead generation potential for category with high margins.

StayAtHome.com

$15,000

Cool, brandable and tailored for the huge work at home industry. 135,000 monthly searches, good advertiser base, lots of angles with the economy forcing people to stay/work at home.

Peephole.com

$15,000

This name is a premium AND a brandable generic. Could be branded or used for an ctual product. Obvious adult but is also a product, which is key.

ChewToys.com

$15,000

Pet supply business is enormous with a large advertiser base and affiliate programs.

LCDtelevisions.com

$15,000

Massive search volume, tons of advertisers – 1,800,000 monthly searches and over 180 advertisers on the term

BusinessGrant.com

$13,000

Solid name, high margin industry, brandable – 74,000 mo searches, 80 advertisers

CorporateTaxes.com

$10,000

Competitive, seasonal spikes – out of season searches = 6600 advertisers = 60, bid price $2.15

MadisonAve.com

$10,000

Advertising or real estate, this domain is already a global brand with tons of perceived and real value, especially at this price point.

MobileNews.com

$10,000

Two great words, ‘mobile’ and ‘news’. Easy development with lots of revenue options. Also a ‘geo-domain’ as in the city, Mobile.

Drive.net

$9,000

Single worder for auto or golf or brand, even hosting. PERFECT combo brand for online storage company – as in hard drive and .net as in hard drive on the internet – beauty.

Bail.net

$9,000

Competitive word, tons of possibilities. Four letter – 550000 searches, $2.15 bids. Mostly local but lots of ads.

SeafoodRestaurants.com

$8,000

What you could call a ‘generic geo’ with directory, revenue potential. Red Lobster anyone? Local and national advertisers potential with 200,000 searches mo, $0.65 bids.

Regiment.com

$8,000

Great one word that could be branded in fitness or health or anything. Great price with 246,000 monthly Google searches, $0.64 bids, hundreds of advertisers.

Drama.net

$7,000

Very competitive area with lots of searches. Tons of SEO value on this one with two million searches.

Classic.net

$5,000

It’s cool, it’s classic, with some resale value at this price. Think high-end like ‘cars’ or ‘collectibles.’

EnergyTips.com

$5,000

Excellent for the times with very nice resale/development potential in a market with upside and major growth forecasted.

OfficeComplex.com

$5,000

How much does one complex cost? Has brand, SEO, industry and resale value.

BrokerageAccount.com

$5,000

Another competitive area with bid prices – 18,000 search, +$9.00 bids, +30 advertisers

Vulnerable.com

$5,000

A terrific one word ’security’ name at a discount. Like headcase, can be a band, movie, game, etc.? Also nice name for niches like identity theft, banking, computer backup, etc

PartTimeHelp.com

$4,000

Solid offering at this price point given that ‘jobs’ do well in good and bad times

Headcase.com

$4,000

No brainer. Will end up being a movie or a game or show and a nice resale for the buyer.

Beneath.com

$3,000

Again, a really nice price point with tons of potential uses in branding or adult or again, a game or film or entertainment piece. So many potential uses – makes for a large buyer pool.

Chambermaid.com

$3,000

Excellent brandable for the competitive ‘maid’ market. Potential adult too. 4400 searches, $0.78 , low advertisers count. ‘Maid’ keyword = 1m searches with tons of ads. Right price.

Dabbler.com

$2,880

Fun and real and low priced. Brand for entertainment, game, art, business, personal. One of my personal favs here.

AntiItch.com

$2,500

Generic covers a very big industry. Especially low price with 22,000 searches, ~$1.00 bids, 6 ads, plus top of Google product listings.

FluPrevention.com

$2,500

Seasonal and profitable with current #’s 5400 searches, $2.46 bids, +90 advertisers.

Footspray.com

$2,500

Great product specific domain name at a really low price with 8000 searches, ~$1.00 bids, +90 advertisers.

StudentChecking.com

$2,500

Keyword rich pair – 4400 searches/mo., $13.00 bids , over twelve advertisers.

KidFlicks.com

$2,500

Top-notch domain in a big, profitable space with lots future growth and brand potential. Easy to develop into store or review or video site and resell at a profit.

ScienceBooks.com

$1,000

Product specific two-worder. Product used by all. Easy to build out quickly and fill with products, 316,000 monthly searches , 50+ advertisers, price $1.15.

EquipmentBrokers.com

$1,000

Terrific phrase with a big profitable industry behind it. Google “equipment brokers” and look at the number of companies calling themselves ‘XYZ Equipment Brokers’.

Porch.net

$1,000

One word, five letters and how much is a porch? SEO value here is quite large with 800,000 searches. Seasonal as well, tailored to spring and directory capable. The price is very competitive.

TwinSizeBed.com

$820

Specific domain of an expensive product-class with 49,500 monthly search, 50+ advertisers.

Formula.info

$650

Over 4,000,000 searches, no ads though. Development potential in science niche, food, math/education, dieting, entertainment, business (formula for success). Right price.

SpywareTracker.com

$500

High margin automated software industry. Easy to develop/profit – low search volume, 2 ads, $2.60 top bid.

HospitalClothes.com

$500

Good, profitable online business. Have you seen nurses these days? Specific product that has high margins and repeat customers.

FloodDamages.com

$320

HeatingFuel.com

NO Reserve

PianoTuners.com

NO Reserve

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Comments

  1. gwkg Says:

    No .tv =(

  2. cartoonz Says:

    Susan said (a few days ago…):

    “Meanwhile, our dev team has been putting the finishing touches on best-of-breed domain auction platform. We’ve designed and built our new auction interface with one goal in mind: making it easy and intuitive for you to participate in online domain auctions. The app is completely browser-based with no special plug-ins required. It has your own personal watch list, no hidden reserves, and out-bid notices. We think you’re going to be very happy with it and we can’t wait to show it to you!”

    Umm… I’d much prefer that you don’t wait to show it to us… I’d like to inform all the previous parties previously interested in my domain where to go to bid!

  3. cybertonic Says:

    What is NOT fair is you should have clearly announced before starting to accept domains that you will not auction top premium domains (+100k).
    All the ones that trusted you and submitted their best names at Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com lost the opportunity to have them auctionned in T.R.A.F.F.I.C NY!
    I don’t specifically speak for me as by chance I got for the name I suggested a private offer over my initial reserve so your decision finally should help me maximize profits, but in general.
    I hope the next time you as any other auction house will better define the domains you may accept.
    And that also next time you will define your list at least one full week before the auction date in order the minimum promotion your client names deserve can be done.

  4. zoeystella Says:

    interesting list. looks promising!

  5. AKubba Says:

    Cybertronic, please allow me to clarify… the “No Names Over $100,000″ concept was less of a conscious decision and more of an outcome based upon our strategy of selling high-quality, investment-grade domains at aggressive prices, ensuring value upside for our buyers and creating liquidity for our sellers.

    We certainly DID NOT make the decision to cut domains priced over $100K at the outset of the submission process. In fact, throughout the selection process, we reviewed, analyzed and consdered domains ranging in price from no reserve all the way up to seven figures, and everywhere in between. While there were plenty of quality domain submissions priced well above $100K, the reason for not including those domains had nothing to do with not wanting six and seven figure domains in our auction. Rather, those domains were not included simply because we believed them to be priced outside of realistic marketable ranges, especially given recent comparable sales, market activity and economic conditions.

    Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com’s goal is to be THE place to buy, sell and trade domain names… accordingly, we cater to and support domains of all calibres and prices. We’d be more than happy to include quality $100K, $1M and $10M domains in our auctions, if they are priced right. As we’ve all seen in the past, it does nobody any good to have a bunch of overpriced “window dressing” domains that don’t sell and serve no other purpose other than to slow down the auction and put everybody to sleep.

    I hope that this post sheds some light on our thought process and how we arrived at our final inventory list. If anybody has any further comments, questions and/or suggestions, I’d be more than happy to discuss those with you personally at the T.R.A.F.F.I.C. show next week.

    All the best,
    Ammar

  6. realcostdomains Says:

    As usual my list is still under review.

  7. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    @realcostdomains: It wont change. Aside from the status not ever changing, not much else has changed either.

  8. cybertonic Says:

    You are probably right Ammar, all the +100k domains submitted were certainly overpriced (there is so many morrons…)

    Unfortunately I could not assist and meet you as I don’t understand english spoken, so just let me wish you a great T.R.A.F.F.I.C!

  9. barney55555 Says:

    what happened to namelender-com its gone off the list, I was watching that one, to be fair the names and the prices should get some interest,best of luck to all the sellers,

  10. jeanluc Says:

    There should have been better guidelines set down for submission of the names. I found the whole process quite unprofessional, frustrating and lacking in transparency, not to mention communications.

    I read Akubba’s response with interest but find the information meaningless given the fact that the submission process is closed and the names have been finalised. Why did you not state this when you called for the submission ? The whole process has been a complete farce.

    If the submitted names were overpriced and the names were of good value then the least Aftermarket could have done is provided some feedback to the owner/s as to what a fairer reserve price might be. This would have been great customer service and engendered some loyalty to deal with Aftermarket in the future.

    As it stands trusting Aftermarket has been a great let down for me.

    I wish all the sellers a great auction result.

  11. digitalmoguls Says:

    Hey jeanluc,

    Your comment:
    “I read Akubba’s response with interest but find the information meaningless given the fact that the submission process is closed and the names have been finalised. Why did you not state this when you called for the submission ? The whole process has been a complete farce.”

    You’re out of line, because you haven’t even seen the results of the Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com auction yet, and I can tell you don’t have the experience to comment on domain auction production. Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com doesn’t have to “appraise and advise” domainers on their submissions, like you suggest. If you want a “proper reserve price” on your domain, then hire a domain consultant to appraise it for you. Don’t expect Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com to do it for you for free.

    Doubting Ammar Kubba’s “trust” is the sign of someone who has limited experience in the domain industry. Ammar is probably one of the most trusted people in this business, and I personally won’t stay quiet if I see an idiot like you disparage his rare posts. You find his response “meaningless”? Let me make this clear to you:

    If Ammar says something, it stands as fact. Unless you’ve previously bought or unloaded domains worth $1million+, then f*cking don’t EVER question his input. You’re an asswipe and you’ve pissed me off. By the way, I don’t have any connection with Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com nor their auction, but I know Ammar, have worked with him at TZ, and his reputation is impeccable. He’s too civilized to respond to your accusatory comments, but I’m not.

  12. barney55555 Says:

    I agree with jeanluc if a name was good enough and over priced for the auction it would not have hurt to get in touch with the seller,
    its called business as for any one who unloaded a million dollars worth of domains that would depend on what time they got into the business its called luck ,hmmm dont question his input lets see,I wont mention two names here I would not want to spoil the sale of them take a close look , can you spot them , probably not as for the ass wipe bit, that would be some one who gets pissed off very very easy

  13. realcostdomains Says:

    I believe they only use a select few sellers and everyone else is beat. The last few auctions I would have “Under Review” but never get the review done before the auctions start. I am starting to wonder why I waste my time here anymore.

  14. jeanluc Says:

    Oh dear, it seems I have upset someone who doesn’t understand the English language and lacks the common decency to carry a civil conversation publicly. My dear “digitalmoguls” if you read my comments with a cool head without all the frothing at the mouth you will see I never made any personal attacks on anyone as that is not my nature unlike you – I just made a comment about the lack of transparency and the lack of the rules being made public prior to the closing date for submission.

    And yes. maybe I have limited experience in this field compared to you. However, what I lack in this I more than make up for it in truckloads in common business sense. Establishing ground rules on the run is not a, let’s say, a prudent way to engender loyalty from those who you are trying to woo.

    So, kindly either crawl back in the hole from which you just managed to escape long enough to have the freedom to write a response or go back in time and ask your parents to use a contraceptive.

    There is no excuse for the lack of civility, good manners and some decency. Try to be part of the global community instead of being a feral rabid animal.

    Oh, and please don’t forget to take your medication before responding …. if you have the decency to. May the force be with you “digitalmoguls”.

  15. jeanluc Says:

    Oops … let me thank those who supported my comments and did so with civility and decency. Similarly, any criticisms will be wholeheartedly welcome as long as it is in good taste and with a dose of humour.

    Have a great day.

  16. MetrolinaHoldings Says:

    @digitalmoguls (#11):

    How is jeanluc out of line? There have been many auctions by these folks since summer 2007 and all of them are plagued with poor communication, lack of transparency, software issues galore (I cant tell you how many times I had to resubmit lost entries and once, my entire submission list!). Please. Many of us are fed up now. This auction will be just like the rest. Mediocre at best.

    Its one thing to pay a focus group to evaluate and suggestion things, but when you get FREE INPUT from very supportive customers, over and over again, and then never implement their good ideas, thats another thing.

    Some of us have been suggesting and trusting and patient far too long. I love giving people a chance and have lots of patience, but, there are way too many other venues out there to keep my feet cemented here.

    And, yes. People CAN and should doubt Ammar. People make mistakes. No one is perfect.

    And, by the way, whats with the language? As far as I am concerned, your reaction to jeanluc stinks of being connected to these people in some way, shape or form.

    Come on. Most of us werent born yesterday.

  17. barney55555 Says:

    just one more thing, you must have a misspelling on the list, one off those names is coming up as available to reg, its one of the crap ones so i did not reg it,and i checked it twice, i hope its a misspelling or all credibility is gone, estibot gave it a value of reg fee so it should be easy to find

    UPDATE: Fixed. You can now open link to it as you can the others.

  18. smokin35 Says:

    First off, we have nothing to do with submission system but did work the list. There are several falsehoods in the comments here.

    1. If a name was good enough but overpriced, we did contact seller with requests. Several of the names listed above started well above $100k and were talked down.

    2. NO – we do not use a small group of sellers. ALL submissions were viewed and reviewed by MANY people – there are no ’suppliers’, there is no favoritism. If you submitted it, it was reviewed.

    3. The folks at TrafficZ have worked very, very hard – give them the benfit of the doubt. It is not easy to develop, break new ground.

    4. Putting a domain in a live auction is a risk because it takes ‘agressive’ pricing on the sellers part. The more agressive, the more potential action.

    5. There were only 50 slots for the auction so indeed, many good names did not make the cut for many reasons.

    Apologies for any inconvenience and cheers, M.

  19. Susan Prosser Says:

    I would also like to address a few points.
    1. During the selection review process, I removed all relevant contact data before giving the team access to the submitted domains. The reviewers were unbiased in that fact. Reviewing of the domain was based on name and price – no favorites.

    2. We actively negotiated, or attempted, to negotiate pricing on many more domains than are listed. In that effort, we have equally upset sellers who agreed to price change. We found most sellers will to negotiate, making the decision on the list even tougher. We appreciate the positive response to negotiations.

    3. Regarding “Under Review” status, it is a valid status. We were reviewing continuously up until the list went final just recently. The status will be updated soon.

    4. We do appreciate the constructive feedback of the system and process.

    -Susan

  20. jeanluc Says:

    Dear Susan & smokin35. There is no doubt, and those of us who have organised any major event can empathise the fact, that a hell of a lot of effort has gone behind the scene to organise this event and with Murphy’s Law prowling everywhere there are bound to be breakages and disconnects and other unforeseen issues arising. So a large dose of benefit of doubt has been factored into all ofmy responses.

    However, I think what has yet to be addressed and which has been misconstrued in the emotional outburst by one of the respondents and the subsequent responses from Aftermarket, is that at no time were the ground rules outlined clearly for us to work by. I, for one only found out about the real size of the auction list post submission closing date.

    Furthermore, correspondences went unanswered, responses were incomplete, failure to follow through on undertakings …. etc. I think those who took you on face value and in good faith, including I, deserve some explanation. Is that too much to ask ? In the end you depend on these same people to exist and operate a viable business.

    This is only a very very limited auction which was not made clear at the outset – “There were only 50 slots for the auction”. I just don’t think it is fair to us to operate in this clandestine manner (knowingly or unknowingly) ….. and yet I have not heard any explanations or apologies for the waste of our valuable time.

    A little bit of respect for the submitters does not go astray. I will think twice, next time, before I consider engaging in Aftermarket activities. Unfortunately, from all the banters it is obvious Aftermarket has lost a lot of valuable goodwill.

    Good luck in your coming auction and hope it is a great success for each and everyone.

    UPDATE: jeanluc, I appreciate your honest comments. I am a little surprised by the point of the “size of the auction list.” I may be misreading it, but the limit of 50 or so lots was stated as early as the first posting on August 5th. That has been the consistent theme throughout. The deciding factor to design the auction list of values under $100K I thought Ammar addressed well. It was not a conscious decision. It was purely by recognition that there are quite a few interested sellers wanting to sell their domain and such aggressively priced them at the beginning. I’m curious, would your submissions or pricing be different if the cap was indicated at $100K from beginning?

    And, yes, we do respect the all parties involved – buyers adn sellers. Communications can be improved – duly noted. Thank you.

  21. DomainNameNews_com Says:

    “at no time were the ground rules outlined clearly for us to work by. I, for one only found out about the real size of the auction list post submission closing date.”

    How does this change what names you submit to the auction or how you price the names ? If you want your names in any of the auctions you price them right or you risk not being in the auction, right ?

    If they told you ahead of time 50 names (which they did apparently) and all 100k or lower (which was never possible since that was based on the names picked), you would have gone elsewhere or priced the names lower right ? Didn’t you always had both those options ?

    This is a competitive business even in selling domains and getting a slot on an auction. If you want to sell your domains I think you need to realize there’s THOUSANDS of others who want to sell there names too. 50 slots. . .that means you need to be aggressive.

  22. jeanluc Says:

    Many thanks for the update. Please note I have nothing to gain out of this banter except to highlight the fact that the whole process was flawed from the beginning and to ensure an equitable and a level playing field for all. Corporate responsibility has to be at the forefront of all dealings with clients. We are all mature people who are aware that mistakes happen …. the difference between a successful and a dead beat organisation is how they handle that mistake and how quickly they are upfront with the error of their ways.

    Correct, there has been a misunderstanding as my perception was that “lots” referred to groups of names in different pricing brackets ie. you might have 40 names in the price range of say 0-$10,000, then 32 names in $10,001 – $20,000 etc.

    Correct, in that I would have submitted different names limited to only .com extensions with different prices had I known the ground rules.

    And this point of the $100,000 cutoff is the one that is of greatest concern to me as it was decided very late in the process. It just shows a lack of transparency in the whole process. You just can’t change (well, you have) the rules towards the end irrespective of any extraneous circumstances at your end. It is disrespectful to all of us and highlights the lack of due diligence at your end. Not once during the whole process did the $100k cutoff figure ever rear its head – you could have asked all of us to resubmit the names when you had an inkling of what the max price was going to be set at. I cannot accept the reasons given as either logical or valid.

    The whole exercise has left a question mark in my mind as to the veracity of future auctions. At the end of the day I am aware that it is irrelevant as to whether I accept or reject your reasoning.

    Prosper & travel in peace.

  23. dan75695 Says:

    And most importantly, names we submitted under less than clear guidelines are now tied up for 90 days. How about releasing all unselected names as a show of good faith?

  24. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    Tied up for what and whom? No one selected your names then nothing is tied up. No one got to bid, no one contacted you. Heck, the status of “under review” never changed for any of the domains. I pulled all my domains out when it was clear that it was, once again, like trying to hit a moving target. My names were still “under review” and as far as I am concerned, they were never reviewed. I’ve suggested this for a year, as each name is discarded the status needs to change. Transparency. Communication.

    I dont think we’d allow our credit card company to never change our daily credit limit as we purchased items against the card we have with them. Oh, I dont know, they may do a mass-update of our balances once every month or two. But, in the meantime we have to guess? No more guessing. I pulled my names and they are on their own elsewhere now. No one bid on them, no one contacted me, no one was interested in the least. Lets get one thing straight – this has NOTHING to do with emotion and ALL to do with logic.

  25. WhatTheHeck Says:

    WISELY, after reading the ‘legals’ of this proposed auction, I decided NOT to list my domains here, at this time.
    I did not like the 90 day HOLD !
    Now I am FREE to list anywhere I choose !!

    Good Luck to you ALL …

  26. dan75695 Says:

    OptimalNames, I hope you did not submit your best names, because if you did they are locked up for 90 days …”from the date of submitting”

    Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com Seller Agreement
    1. Term. The Term of this Agreement shall be for ninety (90) calendar days from the date of submitting the Doman Names(s) to Company via Company’s online auction platform or thirty (30) days from the conclusion of the September 2008 auction at the T.A.F.F.I.C. Domain Conference & Expo. whichever occurs later.

  27. cybertonic Says:

    I think these 90 days exclusivity are ONLY valid if your domain(s) have been selected for the live auction.
    The inverse will not be logical and in fact a real abuse.

    Can someone of DomainTools or Though Convergence can be kind to confirm the understanding of your terms so everyone here can breath?

  28. realcostdomains Says:

    Yes – I mean are we bound if we still have UNDER REVIEW in our account as of today – auction day? You say everyone was reviewed yet mine again for the 4th time trying DT LIVE auctions, we were again missed. We have low reserve and better names than some others choosen.

  29. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    dan75695 and WhatTheHeck: “cybertonic” is correct. If one or more domains was selected and the domain did not sell -or- for whatever reason you removed the domain from the auction, then you’ve gotta wait. Thats only fair. They took the time to list it and market it and its out there being viewed by potential buyers right now. But, for this conversation, this isnt the case…

    My names were never selected. I will never know if they were even considered. Even if they were considered, they were CERTAINLY never seen by any potential buyer(s). I pulled all of my domain names when the status was still “Under Review” and when I realized (once again) that they would never be considered and got that “here we go again” feeling.

    Bottom line, none of my names were selected for inclusion into the auction. I am taking them elsewhere. *I* and only I own my domain properties, no one else does.

  30. dan75695 Says:

    OptimalNames, hope you have a good lawyer.

  31. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    Dont need one. ;)

  32. realcostdomains Says:

    So if we are Under Review still are we basically not going to be Reviewed? Not sure why I keep wasting my time with DT auctions – they never review our names. Susan says there is not favoring sellers but that is hard for me to believe when we were under review still and the list was chosen. Basically I would never make it in if the final list is out and we weren’t reviewed yet? Am I making sense here? This is like the 4th auctions that I was completely ignored & Missed. That seems like favoring others to me.

  33. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    @realcostdomains: You probably werent ignored. You might have had your names reviewed. You will never know. There is no communication as to such. (i.e. the status changes to “reviewed”, “declined”, “candidate” or whatever… ANYTHING to suggest progress). Again, *communication*. Logic. Its just not there. Never has been. And, it doesnt matter if they werent reviewed or they were reviewed. They were NOT selected. Thats all that matters. Sell them elsewhere. No big deal. Its not the end of the world.

    UPDATE: all, dan75695 is correct. You will find that most auction houses have the same terms. For an inside perspective, the reason that term is set is so sellers do not list in multiple locations and risk being selected at both. That has occurred more than once. That is troubling for the seller and the auction house. Knowing personally the amount of work going into reviewing each domain submitted — and yes, each domain was reviewed — we want to make sure we only spend time on those that are available for sale and not review or consider submissions unavailable. I am sure other auction houses have experienced the same problem which is why sellers agree to the terms upon submission.

  34. realcostdomains Says:

    I just had Jere send me the following:

    The list for the Auction has been finalized. We do have another auction coming up in November, you can keep those domains posted and we will consider them for the next auction.

    ———————————-

    I don’t get it – it still says Under Review. For months I have been wasting my time trying to use this marketplace and again we aren’t chosen…. What a waste of time!

  35. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    The point about a domain owner listing a domain in both auction “A” and auction “B” (simultaneously) is certainly *not* the same as listing that domain in auction “B” *AFTER* auction “A” declines to select the domain for the auction “A”. These are two completely different concepts. The former is to avoid conflict. The later is called free-enterprise in an open market.

    However, if you’re implying that you’re actively pursuing buyers for the domains that are still “Under Review” for a period of 90 days, then that should be stated as well. But since its clear that you’re not, domain owners should be free to remove their domains from *further consideration* and take them to auction “B” or wherever, at will. Otherwise, this sounds too much like a non-compete clause which we all know how the courts in California love to strike down non-compete type complaints.

    What really seems like is happening, to me, is, that you’re looking for a “pool of domains” from which to draw on at any time. And, by keeping the auctions coming up every few months and keeping the status unchanged at “under review”, you keep an active “pool” of domains by reseting the domain owners’ “90-day no can sell” clause.

    If you want to avoid domain owners from submitting domains to multiple auctions on the same day and time, then fine. That makes perfect sense. But I am sure it would raise a collective court’s eyebrow if they come to find out the owner of a domain is further restricted from freely selling their own property, *AFTER* it has *not* been chosen for the said auction and is *not* participating in said auction.

    I have never been part of an auction (real property or not) where after the auction I couldnt enter my property again the very next night in another town with another auction company. There is one thing to note about ownership of property – it carries a LOT of weight….

    So. This should no longer be of any concern. I’ve removed my domains from this collective “pool” and will never participate here again. Unfair business practices and closed-market concepts are not my style.

  36. WhatTheHeck Says:

    “dan75695 …
    OptimalNames, I hope you did not submit your best names, because if you did they are locked up for 90 days …”from the date of submitting”
    Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com Seller Agreement
    1. Term. The Term of this Agreement shall be for ninety (90) calendar days from the date of submitting the Doman Names(s) to Company via Company’s online auction platform or thirty (30) days from the conclusion of the September 2008 auction at the T.A.F.F.I.C. Domain Conference & Expo. whichever occurs later.”

    “UPDATE: all, dan75695 is correct. ”

    Just like I THOUGHT … SEE, you are all SO screwed !!!

  37. WhatTheHeck Says:

    I TRIED to tell you all what I saw happening in those “legals”, but the ‘powers that be’ didn’t really want you to know that you would, basically, be signing-away your rights to sell your own domains for a MINIMUM period of NINETY days !!

  38. WhatTheHeck Says:

    You should POLITELY ask THEM to let you OUT of that aggreement, once they have decided NOT to list your domains in the auction !!

  39. realcostdomains Says:

    I have no problems battling in court, I have my own FT attorney on the books anyway. If OptimalNamesdotcom is right in post #35 – this whole process is a mess and pretty messed up.

  40. OptimalNamesDOTcom Says:

    @WhatTheHeck: Dont worry. ;)

  41. jeanluc Says:

    As I tried to highlight in my posts, no transparency, lack of due diligence, lack of respect, negligible communications, bias in favour of a certain group of people, changing rules, greed, excessive non-compete clause ….. ad nauseum. …….seems like fertile litigation grounds.

    In any emerging market you will always find rogue operators until either the govt is forced, through increasing customer complaints, to regulate the market through legislation or the pressure of competition forces the rogue operators into oblivion.

    We are witnessing the very beginning of this stage unfolding. Let’s face it, free market means free for those who are adept at manipulating the system and fleecing the honest people who take them on face value for mugs.

    You don’t need to look too far for a good example …. just look at the current global financial system meltdown … once again the rogue operators are responsible for precipitating the whole meltdown as the system was self regulated and very incestuous.

    We need more competition in the Domain market and eliminate the power base of the big operators who have created an oligopolistic market. Whenever an organisation enforce its legals you can bet your bottom dollar that the whole system was flawed.

    After this experience, I for one am now in the process of setting up in competition against these rogue operators. AND after being treated like some invisible organism, the Ts&Cs will be biased in favour of the clients who after all provide the bread and butter on the table.

    The 3 Most important rules of business;
    RULE 1: The Customer comes first
    RULE 2: The Customer is RIGHT
    RULE 3: Treat the customer like you would like to be treated

    I think it is time to stop further banters as we cannot expect any formal apologies nor any concessions from Aftermarket. They have failed to rise to this level after so many posts from so many disgruntled domaineers over such a long period.

    Given the events to date, I would like to see Aftermarket try to enforce their legals on us. It will surely be the downfall of Aftermarket from all the adverse publicity they will receive. It would be advisable for Aftermarket to be cooperative rather than confrontational and at least salvage some valuable goodwill lost in this debacle.

    Good luck to all of you in your domaineering.

  42. WhatTheHeck Says:

    AftermarketSucks.com

  43. WhatTheHeck Says:

    (Would PROBABLY do Good in the Auctin)

  44. cartoonz Says:

    Apparently, none of you has even smelled, let alone read, the SnapNames / Monteker auction agreement… Until you do, quit whining over this one already!

    I had some names no make it in. Big deal. They are not optioned to go into the “online only” after-party sale mechanism either… so, no listing – no contract. Clue in, people! Yeah, yeah… you “read” something different in there… now combine that with all the elements necessary to actually bind a contract and I think you might find something missing….. just my thought, anyway.

    But, like I said, Read Monte’s fine handiwork if you don’t like how this smells… that one is wretched.

  45. barney55555 Says:

    Who cares, this whole thing is a set up, out of thousands of domains you have the same owner for three of them,kids flicks, peephole, chewtoys, all have the same owner, WOW would be hard to get names like them at any auction,lol, and then you have three more fantastic names fluprevention, antiitch, and footspray, all have the same owner, have to say the people at trafficZ did a great job exactly how stupid do you people think (we) i am and i am pretty sure if you go through the list you will find more of the same, my first time here was Wednesday to see how thing where, and to see the great list of names,I fell around the place laughing when i seen namelender-com at the top of the list and out of the very few names people posted on the previous post, there was five fit for this auction,and
    this is the crap been fed to us

    AKubba Says:
    September 21st, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Cybertronic, please allow me to clarify… the “No Names Over $100,000″ concept was less of a conscious decision and more of an outcome based upon our strategy of selling high-quality, investment-grade domains at aggressive prices, ensuring value upside for our buyers and creating liquidity for our sellers.

    digitalmoguls and Akubba are most likely the same person

  46. jeanluc Says:

    Thanks barney55555 for airing your suspicion. Like you, I too thought that “digitalmoguls and Akubba are most likely the same person” given the ferocity, the timing and the intensity of the attack and given that there has been no responses to any of my comments to date subsequent to all the profanity from digitalmoguls. Trust is earned not bought or demanded. At least have the intestinal fortitude if not the courtesy to come clean on this.

    Yes barney55555, the quote you quote gets the “Yes Minister” prize for meaningless baloney. Since my alien universal translator is broken I am unable to provide an English translation of the sentence for the rest of you.

    And WhatTheHeck, I am waiting for your aftermarketsucks.comaftermarketsucks.com site to go live. Do keep us all informed of the development.

  47. digitalmoguls Says:

    I wish I was Ammar Kubba, I’d be a better person than I am.

    I am ferocious in my defense of good people in this business because I believe in loyalty, and not standing by watching crybabies whine about stuff they don’t know about.

    Why did it take me this long to respond to you? Because I’m busy trying to make the domain industry a better place to work in and don’t want to waste time talking to people who like to second guess those who are doing good work to provide a great service for domainers. Unless you’re involved, and have a LEGITIMATE gripe about some oversight or mistake by Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com, then you’re just some noobie, being supported by other noobies who call themselves “BARNEY”.

    Either don’t use Aftermarket and shut up, or test it out and report on it without disparaging Ammar Kubba’s comments. If you think I’m “over the top” in my reply, it’s because I stand by people who I know to be honest and forthright, and you definitely paid attention to what I said, but you didn’t “learn” anything from it. Now move your comments on to something relevant, instead of whining.

  48. barney55555 Says:

    f Ammar says something, it stands as fact. Unless you’ve previously bought or unloaded domains worth $1million+, then f*cking don’t EVER question his input. You’re an asswipe and you’ve pissed me off. By the way, (I don’t have any connection with Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com nor their auction,) but I know Ammar, have worked with him at TZ, and his reputation is impeccable. He’s too civilized to respond to your accusatory comments, but I’m not.
    ( AND NOW YOU ARE WORKING IN THE DOMAIN INDUSTRY) WOW that was fast, well the stuff I dont know about is out of fifty names one person owns 4 of them, another person owns 3 of them, and yet another one own 2 thats got to be some kind of record,I wouldn’t call it work
    part two of your answer I AM NOT SECOND GUESSING , and as for the last part i never learned any thing from an ass wipe yet,

    ho where can i but a bid on namelender-com seen as you dont like BARNEY, is this guy for real

  49. ESLLC Says:

    After reviewing the DomainConsultant.comDomainConsultant.com selections, explanations, comments and responses posted to this blog, I can’t help but ask for a bit of clarification with respect to the Fuel/Mpg lot I submitted for the Domain Tools NYC Traffic Auction. For purposes of creating a metric profile that can serve as a common reference point, I have provided the Google keyword information below. This is based on matching keyword phrases.

    DomainName.tldDomainName.tld
    key word phrase
    Top $CPC Search Vol/Month

    This lot of 24 domains was offered at a reserve of $3800 USD:

    BestMpg.mobiBestMpg.mobi
    best mpg
    $0.90 22200

    EstimatedMpg.comEstimatedMpg.com
    estimated mpg
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    GasolineSales.infoGasolineSales.info
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    GasAvailability.comGasAvailability.com
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    GasMileageTruck.comGasMileageTruck.com
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    RvGasMileage.comRvGasMileage.com
    rv gas mileage
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    CarBestGasMileage.comCarBestGasMileage.com
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    MpgEstimates.comMpgEstimates.com
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    MpgMotorcycles.comMpgMotorcycles.com
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    MpgTrucks.comMpgTrucks.com
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    CalculatingGasMileage.comCalculatingGasMileage.com
    calculating gas mileage
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    EstimatedMilesPerGallon.comEstimatedMilesPerGallon.com
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    FuelEstimates.comFuelEstimates.com
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    MpgComparisons.comMpgComparisons.com
    mpg comparisons
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    CarMileageRatings.comCarMileageRatings.com
    car mileage ratings
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    FuelConsumptionMpg.comFuelConsumptionMpg.com
    fuel consumption mpg
    $0.05 480

    BusHybrid.comBusHybrid.com
    bus hybrid
    $1.28 390

    GasGive.comGasGive.com
    gas give
    $0.05 390

    CarElectricHybrid.comCarElectricHybrid.com
    car electric hybrid
    $2.24 210

    MpgEstimate.comMpgEstimate.com
    mpg estimate
    $0.05 210

    CaliforniaCarHybrid.comCaliforniaCarHybrid.com
    california car hybrid
    $2.66 28

    AverageMilesPerGallon.comAverageMilesPerGallon.com
    average miles per gallon
    $0.74 2400

    HybridCarBestGasMileage.comHybridCarBestGasMileage.com
    hybrid car best gas mileage
    $0.05 28

    MpgVehicleRating.comMpgVehicleRating.com
    mpg vehicle rating
    $0.05 0

    In light of books like, “The Long Tail” by Wired Magazine editor-in-chief, Chris Anderson, that examine the paradigm shift associated with the Internet’s impact on traditional notions of marketing and sales, it’s surprising that the current state of the domain name industry seems to diminish the perceived value of three, four and even five word generic domains that could potentially deliver some of the most highly targeted traffic available anywhere.

    Stepping away from the ruled based, highly technical world of SEO, what is really the ultimate objective of a company that provides Internet search services? If it’s providing information relevant to the specific query entered in the search box (or URL bar), then at some point one might assume that, all other things being equal, a domain name that exactly matches the search query might be given a preference ahead of domain names that are less well matched.

    NewReleasesOnDemand.comNewReleasesOnDemand.com is a published website that speaks to this very issue. If you search the keywords, “new releases on demand” (with or without quotes) you’ll find this website is well positioned. No doubt, this site can offer much improved content, but not bad for a start. It’s not difficult to find many similar examples.

    It seems to me the submitted lot of 24 Fuel/Mpg domain names offers the same potential for delivering highly targeted traffic supported by a verifiable monthly search volume. Clearly $4.00/gal gas will motivate tens of thousands of people to look for something better. The names in this lot offer the opportunity to market products and services that could help make that a reality. What’s more, the risk of poor site placement or a single website disappearing from a search engine index altogether is far less when spread across 24 domains. As these sites are developed and grow in popularity, there would be 24 potential domain sales! And as I already mentioned in an earlier post, even if you discard half of the domains in this lot, at $3800 for the remaining twelve – not a bad deal. Anyway that’s how I see it. Understanding where my assessment falls short would be very helpful.

  50. jeanluc Says:

    My dear digitalmoguls, this is your favourite asswipe here again. There you go again – getting personal yet once again … this time with barney55555. Can you not hold a civil discussion without all the frothing at the mouth ? Can you not give some respect to others or is that something that was deleted from your DNA ?

    By your own words you have admitted twice now at your own shortcomings as a human being; firstly when you state at the end of blog number 11 “He’s too civilized to respond to your accusatory comments, but I’m not.” and secondly at the beginning of blog 47 that “I’d be a better person than I am”. To that I say, why don’t you make an effort to be a better civilised person rather than behaving like a feral animal on a public forum.

    Last time I checked, I was sure we were all living in a democracy where differences of opinions were allowed to be aired without getting somebody spitting venom at the individual or verbally crucifying someone if their views failed to align with their own.

    I am deeply saddened that you are working in this emerging industry but heartened that your survival will be short lived given the rate of growth of this industry. Individuals like you will be weeded out very quickly unless you learn the basic facts of human interactions and learn to respect others and their views.

    From where I stand you have already lost this battle by losing your temper and failing to show respect for others views. Perhaps it is better you do not participate further on this forum as you will not contribute anything positive to the robust open honest discussions taking place.

    God help us if people like you are “….. busy trying to make the domain industry a better place to work in and don’t want to waste time talking to people who like to second guess those who are doing good work to provide a great service for domainers.” Let me point out that just that one sentence tells me a lot about your maturity and your misplaced view of this industry. I beg to differ with your view in that this industry is too small to accommodate your ego.

    I can only say that you work in a very narrow and blinkered view of the world, my friend. If left to people like you this industry’s demise is surely imminent. But having met quite a few in the industry, including those on this forum, I know that you and your ilk will have a very limited lifespan.

    There is no place for profanities or attacking individuals. Kindly let us get on with our discussions and analysis and return to your imagination where you think you are the greatest ………. at everything.

  51. whois_sc28764 Says:

    This is very entertaining reading! Some of you are children. I own YieldAdvantage.comYieldAdvantage.com & .net and would like to sell it. If anyone can name other places I can auction this, it would be apprecaited. Prbly can’t post here, text to ‘72466′ w/ message ‘da ‘ + your suggestions, thx.

  52. digitalmoguls Says:

    Jeanluc… please don’t tell me you’re based in Europe somewhere. I tend to see a lot of whiners and complainers come from Europe and UK who don’t contribute squat to the domain industry, but spend a lot of time hassling American ingenuity. That’s not saying my good pals in UK and Europe fall into this camp, but just check the domain forums run by that region of the world. It’s all about whining, making fun of or attacking people you don’t agree with.

    I think we all saw your real intent spew forth with this admission by you:
    “After this experience, I for one am now in the process of setting up in competition against these rogue operators. AND after being treated like some invisible organism, the Ts&Cs will be biased in favour of the clients who after all provide the bread and butter on the table.”

    What? You’re going to bring a little competition for Aftermarket and Moniker and all the rest? So you finally reveal why you’re dogging Aftermarket? If Moniker had a blog up, would they be next on your whine list?

    It’s hilarious that you make comments, along with a few others here, who are worried that Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com is going to “lock down” the sales rights to your domains for 90 days EVEN IF THEY WEREN’T SELECTED. That’s not going to happen, it never has in the past, because I’ve sold several domains through the Domaintools Auction (now called Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com) and the domains I submitted that weren’t selected I sold elsewhere shortly after, with no “legal hassles” from Domaintools. If your domains WERE selected, and didn’t sell at the live auction, then the auction producer has the absolute right, since they promoted your domains, to have a 90 day grace period to complete any follow-up sales and get their commission. Period.

    There are some domain owners here who are screaming that Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com did NOT select your dogs, and didn’t providing a flea bath for them, too. Then you’re worried that your flea-bitten dogs are going to be “dognapped” by Aftermarket for the next 3 months. It’s ridiculous. Thousands of domains were submitted. You think Aftermarket wants to spend time pursuing your crap domains that didn’t make it to auction if you sell them elsewhere?

    I always invite constructive and educated commentary from both sides of an issue, but when somebody PERSONALLY attacks a respected player in this industry (Jeanluc made the first derogatory comments about AKubba’s response), then I can attack the bad logic and ulterior motives of that person.

    That was you, Jeanluc. Again, if you are so “fed up with Aftermarket.comAftermarket.com” where you stated in several posts you’ll “never participate with them again”, then hit the road. Unless of course, you’re trying to dissuade readers of this blog from participating in a very legitimate and capable auction run by Thought Convergence in order to “sell” them on your stated “competition against these rogue operators”

    It cracks me up you don’t have any idea who I am nor the extent of my involvement to try to push domains properly to the right markets. It’s people like YOU that slows the process down by wasting people’s time with your uneducated and paranoiac commentary here, especially by first attacking someone NOBODY doubts in this industry.

    Thank God that you’re in the bottom feeding 5% of wannabe domain investors who have no clue, or have some other motive, for trying to slow down the growth and focus of a very legitimate, hard working team of people trying to provide a working solution for domain sellers/buyers.

    As far as my maturity and “misplaced view of this industry”, I’m sure there’s lots of domainers who can tell by my writing who I am, and I don’t give a flying FCK what you think because you’re probably 24 months into this business. Be civil, respect the people who have arrived WAY before you unless you can prove they have done something we should be worried about. Akubba is not that person. If you attack my friends or associates who I know to be honest, you are just trying to open up a door you can’t walk through cuz I’m standing there. So just go away and start your own blog and rant.

    And forget it if you think I work for TC… I don’t.

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    Cam Disk (6CYL) 1 466 111 654 654
    Cam Disk (4CYL) 2 466 110 015 015(4CYL)
    Cam Disk (4CYL) 2 466 110 110 110
    Delivery.ValveDelivery.Valve P 2,418,552,027
    Delivery.ValveDelivery.Valve P 2,418,552,065
    Delivery.ValveDelivery.Valve P 2,418,552,069
    Delivery.ValveDelivery.Valve P 2,418,552,103
    Drive Shaft VE pump parts 1 466 100 310
    Drive Shaft VE PUMP PARTS 1 466 100 401 20MM short
    Drive Shaft VE pump parts 1 466 100 402
    FEED PUMP VE Parts 146100-0120(9 461 610 089) 20mm
    FEED PUMP VE Parts 146100-0220(9 461 611 363) 20mm
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-0242 D00-0242
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1000
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1060 D00-1060
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1090 D00-1090
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1160
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1230 1230
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1240 1240
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1250 1250
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1270
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1320 1320
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1330 1330
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1360
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1441 1441
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1451
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1481 1481
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1500 1500
    H&R VE Pump Parts 096400-1700 1700
    H&R VE Pump Parts 1 468 334 565 4565
    H&R VE Pump Parts 1 468 334 677
    H&R VE Pump Parts 1 468 335 345 5345
    H&R VE Pump Parts 2 468 334 021 B334 021(4021)
    H&R VE Pump Parts 2 468 335 022 5022
    H&R VE Pump Parts 2 468 336 013 6013
    Head rotor VE Parts 1 468 334 391 4391
    Head rotor VE pump parts 1 468 334 565 4565
    Head rotor VE pump parts 1 468 334 580 4580
    Head rotor VE pump parts 1 468 334 595 A334 595
    Head rotor VE Parts 1 468 334 859 4859
    Head rotor VE Parts 1 468 335 345 5345
    Head rotor VE PUMP PARTS 2 468 334 021 B334 021(4021)
    Head rotor VE pump parts 2 468 334 050 4050
    Head rotor VE pump parts 2 468 335 022 5022
    Head rotor VE PUMP PARTS 2 468 335 044 5044
    Head rotor VE Parts 2 468 336 013 6013
    NOZZLE DN 5643410 DN0SD230
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 023 DLLA150P22
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 032 DLLA150P31
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 043 DLLA150P43
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 052 DLLA150P52
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 100 DLLA150P110
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 159 DLLA 134 P 180
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 165 DLLA146P154-
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 174 DLLA 144 P 184/
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 214 DLLA 146 P 166/
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 326 DLLA152P452
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 435 DLLA145P574
    NOZZLE P 0 433 171 583 DLLA154P866
    NOZZLE DSLA-P 0 433 175 058 DSLA150P357
    NOZZLE DSLA-P 0 433 175 061 DSLA145P366
    NOZZLE DSLA-P 0 433 175 072 DSLA150P442
    NOZZLE DSLA-P 0 433 175 093 DSLA150P520
    NOZZLE DSLA-P 0 433 175 110 DSLA148P591
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 045 DLLA150S186
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 046 DLLA150S187
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 078 DLLA35S2180
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 160 DLLA79S390
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 221 DLLA144S485
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 268 DLLA150S2120
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 299 DLLA150S616
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 322 DLLA28S656
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 355 DLLA 25 S 722
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 366 DLLA144S747
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 377 DLLA149S775
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 403 DLLA142S791
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 404 DLLA142S792
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 423 DLLA144S829
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 444 DLLA144S485
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 462 DLLA150S935
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 471 DLLA134S999
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 478 DLLA140S1003
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 487 DLLA 136 S 1034
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 499 DLLA136S1094
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 502 DLLA 142 S 1096
    Nozzle S 0 433 271 521 DLLA138S1191
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 524 DLLA 134 S 1199
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 718 DLLA 140 S 1116
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 740 DLLA 136 S 943
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 774 DLLA124S1001
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 775 DLLA136S1000
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 781 DLLA144S992
    NOZZLE S 0 433 271 874 DLLA150S739
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 011 DNOSD1510
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 063 DNOSD193
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 072 DN0SD220
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 092 DN0SD1930
    NOZZLE DN 0 434 250 103 DN0SD293
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 120 DNOSD261
    NOZZLE DN_SD 0 434 250 128 DN0SD265
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 138 DN0SD273
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 139 DNOSD274
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 153 DN12SD290
    NOZZLE SD 0 434 250 155 DNOSD294
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 159 DN0SD297
    NOZZLE DN 0 434 250 161 DNOSD300
    NOZZLE SD 0 434 250 162 DNOSD301
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 169 DN0SD308
    NOZZLE DN 0 434 250 176 DN0SD314
    Nozzle DN 0 434 250 897 DN0SD310
    Nozzle DN 093400-0090 DN4SDND90
    Nozzle DN 093400-0800 DN4SD24ND80
    Nozzle DN 093400-1300 DNOSD126
    Nozzle DN 093400-1310 DN0SD193
    Nozzle DN 093400-1330 DN4SDND133
    Nozzle DN 093400-1420 DN4SDND142
    Nozzle DN 093400-3000 DN0SDND300
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5010 DN4PD1
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5040(105007-1190) DNOPD4
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5200 DN0PD20
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5310 DNOPD31
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5320 DN20PD32
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5410 DN10PD41
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5630 DN10PD63
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-5640 DN4PD57
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6000 DNOPD600
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6030 DN10PD603
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6050 DN0PD605
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6190 DN0PD619
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6280 DN0PD628
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6500 DN0PD650
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6810 DN4PD681
    Nozzle DNOPDN 093400-6850 DNOPD685
    Nozzle S 9 430 084 227 DLLA142S1013
    Nozzle S 9 430 084 245 DLLA142S1264
    Nozzle S 9 430 084 245 DLLA142S1264
    Nozzle S 9 430 084 245 DLLA142S1264
    Nozzle S 9 430 084 247 DLLA142S1266
    Nozzle P 9 430 084 757 DLLA146P600
    Nozzle DNOPDN 9 432 610 062 DNOPDN112
    Nozzle S 9 432 610 192 DLLA137S1157
    Nozzle DNOPDN DN10PD76
    Nozzle DNOPDN DN4PD58
    Plunger PS8500 2418425988 2455-988
    Plunger P 2,418,455,012
    Plunger P 2,418,455,022
    Plunger P 2,418,455,070
    Plunger P 2,418,455,074
    Plunger PS7100 2,418,455,122
    Plunger PS7100 2,418,455,149
    Plunger PS7100 2,418,455,165
    Plunger PS7100 2,418,455,196
    Plunger P 2,418,455,226
    Plunger PS7100 2,418,455,309
    Plunger PS7100 2,418,455,333
    Plunger P8500 2,418,455,338
    Plunger P 2,418,455,342
    Plunger A 1 418 305 525 305-525
    Plunger A 1 418 305 540 1305-540F
    Plunger A 1 418 325 170 325-170
    Plunger MW 1 418 415 081 1415-081
    Plunger MW 1 418 415 545 1415-546
    Plunger MW 1 418 415 545 1415-545
    Plunger A 1 418 425 051 1425-051
    Plunger P8500 2 418 425 988
    Plunger P8500 2 418 425 989 PW40
    Plunger P 2 418 450 011 2450-011
    Plunger P 2 418 450 025 2450-025
    Plunger P 2 418 450 067 2450-067
    Plunger P 2 418 450 069 2450-069
    Plunger P 2 418 450 070 2450-070
    Plunger P 2 418 450 081 2450-081
    Plunger P 2 418 455 002 2455-002
    Plunger P 2 418 455 012 2455-012
    Plunger P 2 418 455 016 2455-016
    Plunger P 2 418 455 022 2455-022
    Plunger P 2 418 455 029 2455-029
    Plunger P 2 418 455 034 2455-034
    Plunger P 2 418 455 055 2455-055
    Plunger P 2 418 455 069 2455-069
    Plunger P 2 418 455 070 2455-070
    Plunger P 2 418 455 071 2455-071
    Plunger P 2 418 455 072 2455-072
    Plunger P 2 418 455 074 2455-074
    Plunger A 2 418 455 081 2455-081
    Plunger P 2 418 455 097 2455-097
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 122 2455-122
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 129 2455-129
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 134 2455-134
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 149 2455-149
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 165 2455-165
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 196 2455-196
    Plunger P 2 418 455 226 2455-226
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 304 2455-304
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 309 2455-309
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 310 2455-310
    Plunger PS8500 2 418 455 338 3455-338
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 348 2455-348
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 369 2455-369
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 512 2455-512
    Plunger PS8500 2 418 455 518 2455-518
    Plunger PS7100 2 418 455 524 2455-524
    Plunger PS8500 2 418 455 542 2455-542
    Plunger A 9 412 270 043 9270-043
    repair kit VE pump parts 2,417,010,001
    repair kit VE pump parts 2,417,010,003
    repair kit VE pump parts 2,417,010,010
    repair kit VE pump parts 2,417,010,022
    Repair Kit VE Parts 1 467 010 059
    Repaire Kits VE Pump Parts 2 417 010 001 2 417 010 001
    Repaire Kits VE Pump Parts 2 417 010 003
    Repaire Kits VE Pump Parts 2 417 010 010 2 417 010 010
    Repaire Kits VE Pump Parts 2 417 010 022
    Military vehicle M35A2 Engine system
    Nozzle: NSN: 2910-00-860-2336
    ADB-135S-126-7
    Fuel Injector Valve Assy:
    NSN: 2910-00-861-1408
    Hydraulic Head:
    HD90100A
    HD90100
    HD8821.
    27333
    27336
    26632
    26964
    22808(7n0449)
    F237(1W5829)
    9L6969(22762)
    9N2366
    33408
    29279
    28485
    32262
    20494
    28481
    4W7017
    8N7005
    7W7038
    4W7022
    1W6541:110
    8N3539
    7W7018
    4W7018
    6N7527
    1P6400
    7W5929
    9H5797
    1W6539
    Turbo, Turbo kits
    4LG
    4LGZ 52329883296
    CAT320B
    CAT3306
    CT26 17201-17030
    D155 6502-12-2003
    D355 6502-13-9005
    D75 6152-81-8310
    Ex200-1 1-14400-2100
    Ex200-1
    Ex200-2 1-14400-2720
    Ex200-3 1-14400-2720
    Ex200-5 1-14400-3320
    Ex300-1 24100-1440C
    Ex300-2/3 1-14400-3140
    Ex300-3C/5 1-14400-3340
    GT17 433352-0022
    GT22 442187-6
    GT2259 452214-0003
    H1C 3538474
    H1C
    H1E 3545701
    H2C 3519095
    HC5A 3523850
    HC5A 3524450
    HC5A 3524451
    HIC 3528777
    HIE 3524034
    HT3B 3522865
    HT3B 3522867
    HT3B
    K03 058 145 703J
    K03 058 145 703K
    K27 53279706519
    K27 5327 970 5203
    K27 5327 970 6206
    K27C 53279707120
    PC200-3 6137-82-8300
    PC200-5 6207-81-8210
    PC200-6 6207-81-8331
    PC220 6222-81-8170
    PC300-3 6151-81-8400
    PC300-5 6222-81-8210
    PC400 6151-83-8210
    PC400-3 6138-82-8200
    PC400-5 6152-81-8210
    RHB5
    RHB6 8944183200
    RHC6 114400-3320
    RHC6/Ex220-5 24100-3340A
    RHC7 24100-1460A
    ST50 3032061
    ST50 3032062
    T04B08 465424-9002S
    T04B11 408970-9002S
    T04B15 409250-5002S
    T04B19 409640-5004S
    T04B25 409770-5018S
    T04B26 409760-9002S
    T04B32 409940-9007S
    T04B42 465360-8002S
    T04B49 465695-5001S
    T04B51 465740-9003S
    T04B71 465154-9003S
    T04B80 409040-5010S
    T04B90 409080-9009S
    T04E12 466820-9006S
    T04E13 466772-6002S
    T25/T28
    T28R
    T3/T4
    T-46 3018067
    T-46 3018068
    T-46 3026924
    TA45 452188-0001
    TA4502 465922-0003
    TA4507 441398-0043
    TA4507 466314-0004
    TA4513 466818-0008
    TA4521 466629-9002S
    TA5101 466074-0011
    TA5102 466076-0019
    TA5111 465363-0001
    TA5111 465363-0003
    TA5112 452020-0003
    TA5124 466102-0001
    TA5125 454025-0001
    TA5126 454003-0007
    TA5127 466159-5003S
    TA5129 452135-0003
    TA5130 468132-0004
    TA5131 466569-0001
    TA5132 452154-0002
    TA5133 454140-0001
    TA5135 479027-0006
    TB2209 466073-0005
    TB25 452215-0002
    TB2502 466480-0001
    TB2504 466546-0004
    TB2509 466974-0010
    TB2510 466880-0030
    TB2514 465555-0003
    TB2518 466898-9007S
    TB2525 465823-5002S
    TB2527 465941-0001
    TB2533 452022-0001
    TB2535 465445-0001
    TB2548 452044-0001
    TB2550 465587-0002
    TB2552 466700-0002
    TB2556 452058-0002
    TB2557 452047-0003
    TB2559 452083-0001
    TB2566 466491-0006
    TB2580 703605-0001
    TBP4 466679-0001
    TBP402 452046-5002S
    TBP404 466229-9001S
    TBP408 465425-0001
    TBP409 465427-0002
    TBP412 452071-5003S
    TBP417 466535-0001
    TBP418 452085-5005S
    TBP420 466533-5001S
    TBP421 452046-0003
    TBP444 702646-0004
    TBP4501 454070-0001
    TBP4802 465481-0001
    TD06 49179-08730
    TD06-17A 49179-02119
    TD06H-14C 49179-00451
    TD06H-14C 49179-00451
    TD07-25A13 49187-00220
    WA350-1 6138-82-8200
    WA350-3 6502-13-9005
    WA400-1 6207-81-8220
    707342-0001 GARRETT TB25 CARBON SEAL KIT
    701813-0001 GARRETT TB25 DYNAMIC KIT
    468100-0000 GARRETT T04B TA3 KIT
    407884-0001 GARRETT T12 KIT
    702603-0001 GARRETT GT15 KIT
    702604-0004 GARRETT GT15 GT17 KIT
    702605-0004 GARRETT VNT GT20 GT22 KIT
    468212-0000 GARRETT T18 KIT
    468214-0000 GARRETT T18A KIT
    468211-0000 GARRETT TV61 KIT
    468416-0000 GARRETT TV94 KIT
    49177-80410 MITSUBISHI TD04 FULL KIT
    49178-89200 MITSUBISHI TD05 MAYOR KIT
    49188-80200 MITSUBISHI TD08H KIT
    MITSUBISHI TF035 WITH BACK PLATE INCUSIVE
    TOYOTA CT9 AND CT12 KIT
    TOYOTA CT20/CT26 DINAMIC KIT
    TOYOTA CT20/CT26 CARBON SEAL KIT
    TOYOTA CT12B KIT
    3599641 compressor wheel turbo H1E
    3526175 compressor wheel turbo H3
    GT25R 471171-3
    GT25R54
    GT28R
    GT28RS
    GT3037S
    GT30R 700382-12
    GT32 4522203-1
    GT3267 706705-0001
    GT3267S 452233-5002S
    GT35
    GT3540R
    GT35R

    3003929
    3003933
    3004054
    3005963
    3012535
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    3054228
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    3054217
    3054218
    3054218
    3054218
    3054218
    3054218
    3054231
    3054231
    3054231
    3054249
    3054249
    3054249
    3054249
    3275538
    3275539
    Москва
    REPUESTOS SISTEMAS DE INYECIòN DIESEL
    ELEMENTO Cabezales rotativos DPA
    VALVULA cabezales EP VE
    TOBERA Elemento Bombeante
    EJE DE LEVAS Elemento tipo P
    CABEZOTE Anillo De Transferencia
    CARCAZA CENTRAL CYM INYECCION DIESEL:AUTOPARTES
    DISCO DE LEVAS
    VALVULA DE RETORNO PICOS INYECTORES
    SOLENOIDE DE RETORNO
    PLATO DE LEVAS TOBERAS
    inyección Diesel y
    inyección Diesel BOMBAS INYECTORAS
    vst?ikovací trysky elementy do ?erpadel Elemento
    CYM. Inyección Diesel Válvula
    Injecteur
    Porte injecteur
    POSTO DIESEL LTDA

    China Lutong Parts Plant offer: diesel fuel injection part,
    diesel element, Lutong diesel , plunger, diesel barrel,
    hydraulic head, cylinder/ distributor head, head rotor,
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    komatsu, diesel injector, diesel, pencile nozzle,
    cylinder/ distributor head, ve-pump

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